في هذا الدرس سوف نتعلم كيفية التحدث باللغة الانجليزية عن الدماغ وتعلم اللغات الأجنبية Language learning and the brain - a layman's view, سوف تساعدك هذه المحادثة على تعلم المصطلحات التي تستعمل عند التكلم عن الدماغ وتعلم اللغات الأجنبية Language learning and the brain - a layman's view, كما انك سوف تكون فصيحا باللغة الانجليزية عندما تريد مناقشة موضوع يتعلق ب الدماغ وتعلم اللغات الأجنبية Language learning and the brain - a layman's view . تحتوي هذه المحادثة على مجمل وأغلب كلمات ومفردات اللغة الانجليزية التي تستعمل عند التحدث والتكلم بخصوص الدماغ وتعلم اللغات الأجنبية Language learning and the brain - a layman's view . تعلم الانجليزية بالمجان على الانترنت, اهم كونفرساسيون بالانجليزية. محادث صوتية عن الدماغ وتعلم اللغات الأجنبية Language learning and the brain - a layman's view لتعلم التحدث باللغة الانجليزية.
A superficial view on how the brain learns language, or at least one that I find helpful as a learner.
You said a greater range of established patterns gives you more wisdom. Do you think this compares to movements in martial arts or chess (etc.)? I find that language learning success comes from keeping an attitude open to new patterns all the time.
Glossika 2 years ago
I don't practice chess or martial arts. Wisdom is based on experience and established patterns. Language learning is based on some experience, in the learning of languages, and openness to the new patterns of the new language.
lingosteve in reply to Glossika 2 years ago
I think he mean its something like lifting weights...
If you take a break from it for about a week you all of a sudden you get stronger, bigger, or whatever your trying to accomplish.
But if you stay away from it too long then you start regressing.
I think its because he has alot of experience with languages he could stay away from it longer than other people who have limited experience..
I hope that made sense.
1andonlyeva in reply to daysin1234 (Show the comment) 2 years ago 5
One of the biggest things, I think, to help in language learning is to try and let go of your own established patterns (your native language) as much as possible. Someone here said to stop asking "why?" This is probably the same idea, or close. I went to school for Russian and Chinese, and in each case, many students would practically reject aspects of the new language because it didn't fit their own "patterns." I find that interesting, and very impeding. Great insights!
хотя ваш русски не очень хорошо, лучше чем что я знаю! Но мне больше счастливый после того я услышал и понял вас! Спасибо, сейчас время вериуться "hit the LingQ!"
TheWarTurkey 2 months ago
I have that all the time during my English learning!
TheMartikaa in reply to TheCrazyStudent (Show the comment) 2 months ago
Sprache lernen ist sehr gut gegen DEMENZ und Alzheimer!
TheMartikaa 2 months ago
Did you read "How the Brain Learns" and "How the ELL Brain Learns" (Sousa)? Found them both to be fascinating. Do you have books you can recommend?
On lateralization. We all have two ways to look at the world: a logical/linear (left side) or holistic/parallel (right side). Efficiency does not lie in trying to use one over the other but, rather, in realizing that both serve a purpose and help one another. It helps us OBSERVE. eg: music/accent is holistic/broad, pronunciation is logical/specific.
bilingueanglais 9 months ago
i totally agree, because in my experience learnig english, at first i used to try to remember the grammar rules in my mind as i was speaking, then i realized that i don't do it in that way with my native language, so after that i became better at english.
and for example in german, german is a little bit like spanish, in the way of changes.
raqui1256 1 year ago
Same happened to me, I often have dreams in my second language and what strikes me the most is that now, it feels my second language has sorta taken over the first, it's basically what happens to people who travel far and stay abroad for many years only to come back home one day speaking their mother tongue poorly... interesting discussion, thank you for bringin it up!
MegaTIOCHICO 2 years ago
I know what you mean, I've had dreams similar to that too, when I ask people about new words and stuff. What did the people in your dream answer, by the way? Since the people in our dreams are generated by our own brains, they can only use the vocabulary that we know so far. So it's not likely that we will get a correct answer when asking for new words in our dreams, right? The people in my dreams have always been giving me wrong answers to questions like that, or no answers at all. Haha. :)
TheCrazyStudent in reply to yuriythebest (Show the comment) 2 years ago
TheCrazyStudent - wow same here. I've just started re-learning the greek language (used to speak it fluently) and in one of my dreams I was talking to ppl in greek and asking for words I didn't know
yuriythebest in reply to TheCrazyStudent (Show the comment) 2 years ago
TheCrazyStudent 2 years ago
One of the biggest things, I think, to help in language learning is to try and let go of your own established patterns (your native language) as much as possible. Someone here said to stop asking "why?" This is probably the same idea, or close. I went to school for Russian and Chinese, and in each case, many students would practically reject aspects of the new language because it didn't fit their own "patterns." I find that interesting, and very impeding. Great insights!
shtosuka 2 years ago 2
I think this can also be seen when you can't remember something or can't think of a solution to a problem so you just stop thinking about it and forget it. Then a few hours later the answer will suddenly come to you. That convinces me that the brain works even when you aren't consciously working it.
saxquiz in reply to saxquiz (Show the comment) 2 years ago
I very much agree with the ideas presented in this video. I have also noticed times when I've taken a break from something, be it language learning or another subject, and when I come back to it I seem to have become better with the subject.
saxquiz 2 years ago
I agree, i stopped french for a couple of months then when i started again i was better
daglug1 2 years ago 2
Great video, very interesting. I have also had the experience of taking time off, only to come back later to find my target language has actually improved. Your insights are all generally true because you have real, actual experience in the field of language, as opposed to claptrap-talking ivory tower "intellectuals," all of whom think they have profound wisdom or divine revelations to impart to the world, when in reality it is just that- claptrap. Have a great trip!
CommodoreV 2 years ago
What i find helpful for learning a language is not questioning everything. Instead of wondering WHY or HOW, just know thats how it is. Later it'll make sense without any explanation. Thats how i picked up the Chinese structure really quickly. Also the way i think about it is, how do we recognize an iPod? how do we recognize trees? thats the way i think of chinese. giving a "picture" meaning and how to say it. Maybe thats the way my brain is "wired". WHy is french so difrnt from Sp.,Pt,It?
coolsteven2 2 years ago
The languages learned as a child are at different locations in the brain due to brain growth / new synapse areas. In kids the outer areas of their brain are growing too quickly so the longer "patterns" necessary to contain language could only ever exist in the core/central areas. When older, subsequent languages are learned in other locations. Kind of like, perhaps, your hard disk on your PC. as it fills up with data, the free allocation units at different platters further along the spindle etc
rsherfan 2 years ago
Some of my own theories using some of the material I posted: Children have "open season" because these "patterns" do not hunker down and establish themselves strongly. eg a pattern established, if not "refired" mentally may disappear in a few short months. Enough time to lose large chunks of a 2nd language or an accent if changing countries of residence etc.
rsherfan 2 years ago
Some points that may be interesting to note: The brain does not record episodic memory until the corpus colossum (the thing that joins both hemispheres) fuses around the age of 4 years, so most people don't have memories (or not many) of being 4 years old or younger.
In early childhood, our brain is growing at an enormous rate - neuron count. The "garbage collection" of young kids is extreme... so if they don't keep up a 2nd language they can lose it very easily. Unlike when you are older.
rsherfan 2 years ago 2
If you take a break from it for about a week you all of a sudden you get stronger, bigger, or whatever your trying to accomplish.
But if you stay away from it too long then you start regressing.
I think its because he has alot of experience with languages he could stay away from it longer than other people who have limited experience..
I hope that made sense.
1andonlyeva in reply to daysin1234 (Show the comment) 2 years ago 5
you absolutely right - our experience make us old.
Привет.
mistulac 2 years ago
hows your holiday?
kkNEURO 2 years ago 2
great video again!
"stop my russian for a couple of months and go back to it, ive actually improved"
Would you care to expand on this? I was always under the impression that going away from it makes it regress.
daysin1234 2 years ago 2
I like your view of how the brain works, too! See you at LingQ! Thank you!!
surrected4526 2 years ago
Can you post a list of the books (and authors) you've read so we can do our own research? Thanks!
somethingsmatter 2 years ago
The contradictions that are drawn from researchers happens because the researchers do make assumptions and then base their conclusions on those assumptions. They have no proof.
KanjiKeith 2 years ago
I really liked where you said you listen to stuff and then think "Oh, yeah, that is what they do!" - so that you are focused on the fact language is used be, and shaped by, real people - rather than in a book or some official organisation.
Silvuschka 2 years ago
Awesome video. I love reading about the brain and language learning too. Your insights were very interesting and I agree with practically everything. :)
Esoparagon 2 years ago
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